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Heat. Heat. Heat up here. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. All right. I It was almost just uh me looking at your screen for the next like 28 seconds. I need to I need to look at the preview and not at the uh the laptop. Hey everybody, >> good afternoon, good morning, good evening. Welcome to 365 deep dive. He's John. I'm Andy. We're together in the same place. >> We're also at the Microsoft campus here in uh Redmond, Washington celebrating the uh a number of things, 25 years of SharePoint. We are also here for the Microsoft MVP summit. and John and I are celebrating five years of 365 deep dive this month. It all started with a uh a little poke and a prod. Hey, you want to talk about this thing called Teams webinars when it was getting ready to be released in March of um 2021. And so I don't even know how many episodes we've done. We'd have to go back and like do the math, but we haven't missed a month. And we've been doing this now for five years solid. So, thanks uh everybody for being on the journey with us. Uh John says every now and then that um it's like I have to kind of keep dragging along as as we as we move through this, but there's no shortage of ideas and u you know, this has been a lot of fun on this five-year journey that we've been on. Yeah, you you've pulled me through, you know, >> a couple a couple episodes of, you know, burnout with just like content creation and stuff. And you know, if you guys follow my my YouTube uh channel, you'll notice that like I'll do, you know, a lot of videos back toback for a while and then I'll kind of like exhaust that queue. Life happens, work happens, and you know, I I kind of like recluse back into my cave a little bit, you know, but it's been good for the, you know, the past five years. You've uh, you know, kept me going time and time again with uh, you know, um, like, hey, what are we going to do next? What are we going to do next? you know, so I can't just like get comfortable and and coached for a little while. So, really appreciate that and it's it's awesome. It's been five years. We did >> we did this for about I think it was about a year year and a half um where it was on my channel and it was always like, "Oh, I'm going to talk about this thing with my friend Andy." And about a year into it, we're like, "You know what? Like, we need to brand this. Like, we need to give it a name. we need to um you know figure something out like get our own channel and stuff and um we were talking on the way over here with Amy Douline and Kirsten McGrath that um we're glad that we picked uh 365 deep dive. >> Yeah. >> Because like we could have gone like 0365 deep dive or or like talking about Office 365 back then >> and we've been doing it long enough that it's become Microsoft 365 for the name. So, um, a little tip out there, if you're looking to start a channel, don't tie yourself too close to a product name because nothing is safe. So, everything can be rebranded if they can rebrand office. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> No, but this has been uh this has been a fun journey for us. Um we've we learned so much over like the last five years >> and we wanted to talk a little bit um uh what we can talk about with the MVP Summit experience. But I think it's really fitting that we get to celebrate our 5-y year anniversary with uh our friends in our community online, but to do it right here live from uh from the uh MVP Summit. We're wrapping up day number five. Uh I'm actually flying out not long after this show uh wraps up, but we've been here on campus with thousands of MVPs for the last five days. I'd love to tell you about Redacted and also really want to tell you about Redacted. Uh there's some cool things coming, so keep your eye on also Redacted, but uh as those things start to roll out, um we're excited to uh to deep dive into them um with all of you all. Uh it's no secret we spent a lot of time in co-pilot sessions uh this week. There's some really cool stuff coming. But a little later in the show, we're going to talk about some of the co-pilot wave three um releases. There's some things that we can show you and that we can talk about that are available. So we're going to definitely um make sure uh that we circle back to that. But we wanted to tell you a little bit about the summit experience, what it's like being on here uh here on campus. Um engaging with all the uh super smart folks at Microsoft. Um I for me it's community. Um Jeff Teper has said you know time and time again it's the best community in tech and I strongly believe that. Um we're both Microsoft 365 MVPs. Uh we spend a lot of time um in the Microsoft 365 apps and services. We also spend a lot of time co-pilot. I'm spending a little bit more time these days in the power platform, but um it's been it's kind Mark Kman actually said this the other day. Um we were talking about high school reunions and you know thoughts on that and someone said this is kind of like our high school reunion and I look forward to this event every single year because I get to see friends from all over the world. Um, I get to uh hang out with um um people that I only get to see a couple of times a year, but we are always able to pick up the conversation right where where we left off. We get selfies together. So, I look forward to the the yearly uh selfie with some of our friends from uh other places. And so, that's been really fun. But I think that's really like the the theme for the week. It's community. It's engaging with like-minded individuals. a lot of sessions, a lot of learning, a lot of feedback. Um, and even some of our friends joining us online through their cheeky shenanigans, like our buddy Daryl in some of our sessions. We had some fun engaging uh um even virtually. Um >> how many years what what in-person summit count is this for you? How many times you off campus? >> Let's see. 2018, 2019, >> uh, and then back again three years ago, um, and in person like, um, every every time since this. So, I think the first one, >> this is like your fifth time, maybe. >> Fifth or sixth time in person. Yeah. Okay. >> This is my first time in Seattle, my first time on the Redmond campus. Uh, first time in person for Summit, but this is, I think, my sixth or seventh total Summit. So, I've been, you know, that virtual guy, that remote guy joining in. Um and uh and also you know um it's interesting like when you have that perspective and you and then you come on campus uh another tip I'm just going to kind of feed you know like like learnings and general tips that that don't apply just like MVP summit but other um things since I've kind of been in both worlds uh for a while now with like remote and in person. Um, one tip is, uh, if you're in person and it's a hybrid event, it's a good idea to, um, join the virtual session, even if you're sitting in the room. That was something that I kept doing all week. Uh, because mainly because I would see Daryl up on screen who's on in the chat. I would see him and I missed that virtual connection that we were doing. So, I would join with your your speakers and your microphone off. don't cause an echo. >> But if you join the virtual and you're sitting in person, you can contribute to the chat as well. >> Um, you know, and I felt a little bit bad because like sometimes like somebody would be like, "Hey, you know, John has a great point in the chat." And I was like, "I'm sitting here. It's kind of unfair, >> but um but I I felt a little bit closer connected to Daryl and Laurian and the people who were like on the virtual chat. Um, so I kept going with that. Uh and then also shout out to Darl again also because um he he kind of recognizes this you know the the like disconnection. So years previously when we were virtual Daryl you know would take it upon himself to kind of create like a little group you know and in between whenever everybody else is walking from session to session you get those water cooler moments. we would have that too where you know like Daryl would be be hanging out and three or four of us would join and and just chitchat while we were waiting for the next session and I just wanted to say like I really appreciate that um you know Darl it's made me feel closer to the crew even though I wasn't um there until this year so I didn't think well I mean those are awesome tips and again huge shout out to Daryl for being the community uh leader that he is but also a great friend But those are not the tips that I thought you were going to lead with. I thought your number one tip was going to be wear comfortable shoes andor insoles. >> Oh, dude. Yeah. Um, yeah, I made that mistake. I I got my my my Vans. I I wear these all the time, you know, 247. Uh, but they've never been a problem until this year. I turned 40 last month and, uh, all of a sudden my legs can't handle the flat shoes. So, um, yeah, day one I I came in, um, and, uh, and Betsy Weber was kind enough to organize with a few other folks from Microsoft to organize campus tours for firsttime people. So, I joined that and it was great because the campus is very confusing. Um, it's uh, it's easy to get lost. the buildings. It's really kind of a it's a cool layout because the buildings are shorter, you know, so you're not ruining like the mountain views and stuff, but um they blend into the trees. Yeah. So like the buildings kind of are almost camouflaged if you're not paying attention too much. >> Um so it was helpful to walk around, but I trashed my legs on day one. So, I ended up skipping the keynote on day two because I could barely walk when I got up and uh instead I watched the keynote from the hotel room while I door dashed some doctor Dr. Scholes insoles. Um and uh also pro tip there, if you order something that you need to trim to fit, you also need to order a pair of scissors for door Door Dash because I had to get scissors to trim them and then I'm just going to have to throw the scissors away because I can't take them on the airplane. So, from those pro tips, comfortable shoes, pace yourself, all things in moderation, but take advantage of the the campus tour if you get a chance. Um, Treehouse, you haven't done it, make sure you check that out. That one's uh that one's really cool. >> Yeah. So, there's there's a lot to see. Um, so just moving on from uh some of our adventures and shenanigans. Oh, um, and we got pictures from the sign. We'll make sure we post those up a little bit later on. But yeah, um the the experience um a lot of conversations, a lot of breakout sessions, a lot of feedback. Clearly, we're under NDA, so there's a lot of things that we can't talk about. Um but the things that we can talk about are um the meeting experience like being in the room is great, but also being able to participate um uh remotely or even join in with the online chat is uh is definitely something uh recommended. But some of the best conversations and decision points actually happen in the meeting chat and even in the real world that's the same. But engage um even u virtually um and it's it's a great way to continue the experience. >> Um while we've been here a lot of things have changed uh just in the tech world. I think like anthropics releasing something like every eight hours. uh some of that's kind of overlapping with some of the Microsoft stuff and we'll circle back to that in um in just a little bit. But we wanted to take a couple minutes and talk about the path to MVP and the journey to get here, especially for those that have um are interested in it and uh are curious like what does it take to um to become an MVP? And the truth is there's there's not a checklist. There's not like a set of boxes that you you just run down and you know, hey, you're recognized as an MVP. It is a recognition. It's something that you're nominated for. It's reviewed by Microsoft and the uh MVP program. And then um there are several thousand of us across the world that are recognized as MVPs. But I think the biggest thing about becoming an MVP is being willing to give back. It's about community and for me that's that's really I think what my contribution was all around and I know a lot of um of the MVPs that I'm friends with and that I've known for over the years. It's about community and so that would be my number one recommendation. Get involved in the community. So find the app, the service, the product that you're passionate about and look for a community. It could be local, could be online, it could be like 365 deep dive where you join in in the comments like once a month. Maybe you start your own uh stream on YouTube, you know, um publish a blog, get involved in social media, get involved in the forum. So, there's a lot of different avenues that you could take to to get here. But get involved in the community, be there, be present. You don't have to be at every event, so don't burn yourself out, but like contribute. And there's, you know, there's all levels of contribution. And I've been doing like user groups and communities since I was in college. And that's a long time ago now. And um one thing that I've learned and it's been very um consistent is the community is going to eb and flow. People are going to come and go and there's always going to be different skill levels. And so there's going to be, you know, some new people that are kind of going over the same things that, you know, maybe you've done a hundred times before. Then there's going to be some people that are more experienced and want to dive into like some of the deeper stuff. But what's going to what's going to happen is you're going to get a new batch of of uh freshmen on campus, if you will. You're going to get another batch that are going to graduate and move on to other things. But just be aware that it's it's kind of like a garden. It's going to grow. It's going to get pruned back a little bit. Uh you're going to need to feed and water it and then it's going to grow um um and reloom in the spring and kind of start all over. And just be um just be prepared. Um you know, you're going to be engaging with a lot of different people. And um don't be afraid to make new friends. I think one of the coolest things I saw uh we met a new friend this week. She had an amazing backpack with an iPad on the back and it was rotating through some like digital signage and it caught everybody's attention. >> So went up and said hello and then um she had this really cool way of sharing her um >> um her LinkedIn through an NFC tag. And so she was coaching people and sharing NFC tabs as little stickers that you could put on your badge and like quickly uh engage with like other people. And it was a >> Yeah, her name's May. >> Yeah. >> And she I wonder if this was her first time, if she's a newer MVP, but yeah, she had a cool backpack which like got everybody's attention. And then that was like such a good idea. I was like, I'm going to totally get these RFID stickers. So, I got one too, like on the badge, she was handing out like this roll of of NFC writable. They were like blank obviously. And so, she was telling people like, "Hey, you know, stick this on your badge. tie it to your LinkedIn profile and that's how she was like sharing it. So over the week you saw it kind of like spread. Yeah. >> You know like wow I thought that was kind of her unique thing that she was doing and that was really cool. >> But her advice and every time she did this was make a friend and that's really what it's about. Make a friend >> and so get involved in the community. I think that's that's a big thing. And again, it can be YouTube, it could be LinkedIn, it could be, um, Blue Sky X, whatever your community is, um, in person, um, virtual, Discord, get involved in a community. And then, um, I like to pay it forward. I love what Daryl's saying right there. Learn out loud. Share what you know, discover stuff together. And I think that's that's great. Um, but learn >> that's something that I kind of was >> was like a thing for me whenever I first got started in the in the community. I I came in through user groups as well. I joined the Kansas City user group. Um, because I I worked in Kansas City, lived in Kansas City. It was a a place to go get like free pizza whenever, you know, we would do stuff. And then there's also that, >> you know, coming to realize like, so I followed like Alistister and Daryl and Daniel Glenn and all these folks um in like, you know, the late teens uh before I became an MVP. And the idea was like, you know, I kind of am like starruck still whenever I like run into people uh around here. But um you know realizing that like you know they learned something and they shared it back. >> I knew something that some other admin behind me hadn't done yet. You know like we've all been somewhere that somebody else hasn't been yet. So even though you know if I feel like it's nothing new under the sun, if I feel like you know oh there's been like a thousand videos on this, what's one more? You know, I don't know if I have anything unique to say. You always do. Um, and and there's always somebody who hasn't been there yet. So, like uh like Daryl said, it's the the working out loud. So, I started with, you know, I was already doing videos internally for um just to protect my own sanity because I was having like I was teaching people how to do one drive or how to do teams and um for my own sanity. I was getting like dragged into like everybody's team meeting. And I don't even like going to my own team meetings once a week, let alone like 30 of them. >> So, uh, I started making tip videos because I just like couldn't be everywhere at once. >> But I was like I branded them very much as like Cerner, you know, and like put the logo on it. And one of the things I learned through the user group was uh Nate Chamberlain and Sharon Weaver. They were like, you know, hey, you should like you're already doing this work. And at the time also like um Cerner also ey like they don't pay for my equipment, right? And they were like, "Well, you know, if you're buying your own camera, if you're buying your own equipment, you're doing it on your own time, like why are you giving that for free to your company?" So, they were like, you know, take the logo off of it, repurpose it, share it out to YouTube, then share it internally. You build an internal and external brand. And that was kind of my path to to becoming an MVP was um was just like that little shift to, you know, hey, I mean, if your company's paying for it, then, you know, don't use your your company stuff for personal things unless it benefits the company in some way. But for me, it was like I was paying out of pocket for this just to save my own sanity. I was like, I need to like do this externally and kind of, you know, try to benefit people that that don't just work next to me. Um, and that that was that was helpful advice from Nate and Sharon. And that yeah, turned into, you know, then presenting at the user groups and then presenting at like M365 conference at Ignite and um eventually it was uh you you find out that like you're about to be nominated when you do something like a conference or something like that and everybody around like you're not an MVP yet. You're not are you an MVP yet? You know, and like the Microsoft FTEEs were like asking me like has anybody nominated you yet? And um and out of that I I was nominated uh by my friend Michael Holy. And um and that's the that's the process of becoming an MVP like the logistical process is um you you grow up through the community. You kind of you know you you you build you know who you are and what you're contributing in the course of contributing. It just so happens that um if you if you be nominated, you're nominated either by a current MVP or a Microsoft FTE, a Microsoft employee. Uh that's the way to to be nominated. Once you're nominated, that that builds a profile and it starts uh it starts with, you know, kind of hey, what what are your contributions? Tell us about yourself. tell us why you're contributing, you know, and they're they're looking for for things obviously that's not like, you know, oh, I'm I'm making videos specifically to become an MVP. I'm trying to crack the code. Like, that's not what we're doing here. That's we're we're doing this, you know, for um for sharing out and and paying something forward is is kind of the vibe that that they're looking for. I think it's pretty blackbox, but um I was nominated back in like December and I filled out like, hey, this is this is what I've done. You know, it'd be great. I I if I get MVP, I would continue doing the same thing I'm doing. Um and about six months later, then you know, you you never hear anything. It just kind of goes in. They review them every month. And uh at the first of the month, they will announce the new MVPs. So about six months later uh I got the email that was like hey congratulations you know welcome to the program that's when you signed the personal NDA that's when you set up a profile and from that point on now you have to be very careful you know about what you're saying and and doing stuff like that not not very careful to um to speak well about Microsoft is not that at all. Um, if you follow people like Tony Redmond, you will know that like the there are people, you know, there are some of us in the community. We are critical of Microsoft because we want Microsoft to be successful because we because I want to use this stuff and not hate it. I want to not hate my job. Um, you know, so sometimes that comes with with harsh criticism from a a place of I want us all to be successful. I want us all to get things done. But um you know it's not it's not just a a cheerleading like you must be a marketing arm of Microsoft and always speak well of the company or or face the consequences. It's not like that. It's the uh you know >> you are now under NDA which means you have responsibility to not ruin this for the rest of us and um and say something that means that nobody gets to hear the cool stuff which would hurt our ability to feed back to Microsoft and try to make these products better. So, >> and and that's what it's about. It's about um the feedback and giving back and trying to um grow the apps and services, grow awareness, and then just continue to do what you do. Learn out loud, share what you know, discover new stuff. I think Daryl put that >> uh really well. So, there's no definitive path to get there, but get involved. Find your people. Find the app or service that that you're interested in. Find a way to contribute. And don't worry if you think somebody's already said it a hundred times. Your voice is unique and there's a way that you can contribute to the story that's going to resonate with other other people. And I'll be honest with you, like even being in the program, I've been an MVP since um 2017 um March 2017 as a matter of fact >> and um I still feel a little imposter syndrome. You know, it's still surreal to me for me. It's it's cool to be amongst um the people that I looked up to and still do, the people that I learned from. It's cool to be able to have conversations with with many of them now. Um some of them I consider, you know, peers, colleagues, and friends. And it's um it really is the best community in tech. U so it's a it's been a fun adventure. Uh, I encourage you if you're interested, you know, reach out, you know, happy to, um, have a conversation, you know, social media. Find me on LinkedIn for sure. >> Yeah, DM us. I was going to say that, too. Like, um, I'm I'm always looking for like I I don't really like doing presentations by myself. >> Um, I like doing it buddying up with somebody. Like me and you, we we kind of naturally do that. Me and Daryl, we buddied up and we're talking about like metaverse stuff back in the day. Um so any opportunity that I have to like you know meet somebody doing like hey let's make a a presentation together especially with things being virtual and there's so much opportunity to do like virtual conferences and stuff we could be halfway across the country halfway across the world even with like New Zealand specifically >> and um I'm like totally happy to buddy up and do a presentation with somebody if I can you know I guess it's it's a little bit weird to say but the reality of the situ situation is in like a sessioniz or in a a conference when you are submitting and you have the credential of an MVP maybe some conferences that that holds a little bit more clout and if I can use my credential that I feel like I don't deserve and feel like you know I don't belong here in an imposttor syndrome but if I could leverage that to help somebody else break into and like let's get on stage together reach out to me if you've got something that you're interested or if our interests overlap and you think about that. Um I would love to, you know, do stuff with other people and have the privilege to be able to nominate somebody down the line because I haven't done that yet. So >> yeah, so that's a little bit around the journey to get here. Um it's been fun. Um, I'm looking forward to continuing that journey, hoping there's going to be some new friends that uh join us along the way. But I think speaking of new, there are some new things that we can talk about. We can do um not the full 2-hour deep dive that we normally do. Travel is the burden this this month. But we did want to dive in and talk a little bit about some of the co-pilot wave three. Um we want to give some reactions, some impressions, call out a few things that have caught um our eye. Um, so we're going to pay it forward. We're going to talk about wave three a little bit, some of what we've seen, and we'll dive into that. Now, >> I'm so busy in my day job that this week I was finding out things that were like, "Oh, actually, guys, that's live." And I was like, "What?" Like, I didn't know about. So, we made a little list of of some stuff that we're seeing change in our own environment um in 365 deep dive tenant um that we were like, "Oh, that wasn't NDA." Like, there's a blog post for that. So, um, we did learn some things that we can share because they're actually live on, you know, publicly and, uh, we miss them because like it's crazy out there and probably you miss them, too. Um, I know, dude, I try to follow even when I'm traveling, I'm trying to follow like industry news and I think Claude had like 48 updates since Monday or something ridiculous like that. It It's been like every day there's been a major release there. So, I'm like already feeling, you know, out of out of the loop on that. No pun intended. Um, but, uh, what should we dive into? Do you want to like kind of show a little bit about the, uh, the Frontier or the Wave Three announcements? I can bring your screen up here. >> So, this is that blog post, right? Yeah. So, I just put this into the chat for for everyone. We'll make it a little bit bigger. Um, so Marlene posted this on the 23rd, just uh, it was feels like a a month ago. Um, just kind of recapping a few things that are out there. We'll go through and show a few of these things um, in live demo. Start off first though, the Word Excel and PowerPoint agents. So, these are starting um, they're in Frontier right now. Um, I don't know. Yeah, they're still labeled in in Frontier. >> They are. I've got my screen here too as well. And it's like uh if you're if you're in Frontier, this is public Frontier. >> Uh you'll see now that >> how do I I don't have my mouse with me to to highlight my my mouse, but over along the side, it used to be under like this little uh area under here. There's like a little rocket ship that said Frontier. Let me zoom in a little bit. Uh now >> they've kind of broken out become their own named thing. So you're going to see PowerPoint, Word. I don't have Excel because because I'm not uh smart enough for Excel, but uh these are the ones that are powered by Claude and it's a chat entry point. This is different from the thing that was called agent mode in Excel or agent mode in PowerPoint. That is an app entry point >> and uh it's not necessarily powered by claude. It's it's powered by Open AI at this time. Um, so this is what you're talking about though is that kind of like uh those agents have been split out of the the frontier bubble >> uh and put into like they've got their own spot in the agent list. >> Yeah. So here's my screen and uh I did a demo with this. So you can see like uh I went into the actual PowerPoint agent. I'm engaging within a conversation. Um just did a simple prompt. create a presentation analyzing how AI is going to transform various industries over 10 years and then immediately it's going to go into some requirements gathering. So it wants to narrow down um is there a specific industry for example what's the target audience? What kind of length um do you want for this particular presentation? Do you want it to be more visuals? Do you want more text? Or would you prefer kind of a balance uh in between? select a theme and there's a number of different themes that are there available out of the box. No organizational themes. I think that'll be a roadmap item for the future. And then once you give it that information and it's collected some of those um uh uh requirements, then it can go ahead and uh start creating that um presentation for you. So we'll do this one. Uh Arctic's looking pretty good. Let's go. And then we let it run. >> It's cold outside. The Arctic is appropriate. It is uh a little chilly here. Um >> dude, it was like 90 degrees in Kansas City and then it's been like 40 all this week. >> Yeah, it's 40. That's for sure. >> Freezing. >> Larrying up. But as you can see here, um it's doing it's processing. It's uh it's thinking and it's going to build a PowerPoint for me pretty quickly. I saw a really cool use case um earlier this week and uh someone ran a prompt and they said um run this research in parallel and then create a couple of presentations and I was like oh that's really cool and so I tried it and it created three presentations almost simultaneously. Uh and what the um um the cool part of that was uh each of the presentations were kind of in there. They were happening in the same conversation, >> but the research was siloed for uh each of the um specific decks. And then the third deck was okay, now do a compare and contrast between the two. And I was like, oh, that's a really cool use case. And maybe I start to think, okay, maybe I can run some things in parallel. You can do that with um um this particular um agent. Now, it's asking me for a followup and know what topic do you want to uh cover. Cool. Let's talk about um uh we'll get there. Claude co-work um announced and we'll come back to that in just a minute. That's >> I like that you've got a a little like text shortcut for Microsoft 365 copilot. That's a lot to type. >> I I type that so often. >> I really like this. This is a very kind of like Claude feeling interface. I've I've switched personally over to Claude in like from like my personal life trying to get more perspective and yeah, I really like the wizard driven. Hey, pick from these three options. Pick from those three options. Um I'm I'm liking the way that they do that and I'm glad to see that coming into the Microsoft experience as well. >> So, we'll let this run. Um, this is a cool one. We'll circle back to it. Uh, it's in the Frontier program. >> You're going to be able to >> show the flip side of that. >> Yeah. >> So, the second thing that kind of goes handinhand with this. What Andy showed is app name agent. And it used to be that you had like PowerPoint agent. That's what Andy showed. Then you had agent mode in PowerPoint. And I didn't really like that naming. It was very like uh it was very like English ccentric and I think there was an international problem there with like come on man you're going to have like this word in front of that word and they mean something different the other way like that's not how some languages work and I think that was a struggle for a global organization. So part of the wave three announcements was also that they have renamed the agent mode in PowerPoint, agent mode in uh Excel. Now it is called edit with co-pilot. So it is a distinctly named thing and if you're in frontier like like we are right here with this uh public tenant you will see that uh if you go to PowerPoint if you go to Word if you go to Excel when you go in and um and I'm going to try how do I uh highlight my dang cursor? I'll have to figure that out in a minute. Um, you'll see that you get like this little tag on the chat that has like the icon. That is the edit in ClipChamp or my god edit in Copilot. Uh, as I mouse over that. So, if you load up and you don't see that, it's under the plus. Click the plus edit with Copilot. It's in Frontier. It's a public preview thing. But once you're in there, now you are going the other direction. you're like, "Hey, I want to create a slide about, you know, uh, make a deck about windmills." And then it'll go through and be a an appdriven experience rather than a chat app, uh, experience. So, um, it's going to go through and it's going to kind of figure out like what are we talking about, what do you need, uh, type of situation. And this is if you use like agent mode in Excel, that was kind of the first of these experiences that came out. Gosh, it was like February, I think, or January where we started seeing it publicly. And it's like, oh my gosh, it it can orchestrate and drive Excel. That's what we have now with PowerPoint is it can drive PowerPoint, Word, and Excel. So, it's asking me those same types of questions here. Uh, I don't know what this is powered by. It's not showing me Claude or OpenAI, but yeah, give me a general audience. I want to uh inform about windmills. Make it medium size. And actually, you know, I use the word windmill. Is it traditional windmills like Dutch windmills or are we talking about like offshore, you know, wind turbines? Well, I used the wrong word. I want turbines. Let's go with future. >> Hit confirm. Now, it's going to start working on that task. And in a second, it's going to actually ask me um kind of like what you had allin-one with the clog powered one. you had the the style setup. >> In this experience, I've noticed that it's split apart. You've got the content. Then it thinks about it for a little bit. Then it's going to ask me about the look and feel here in about 10 seconds. That's where I'll select the um the template that I want to use. And then it will ask me what type of images I want to create. And it it's kind of it's a nice little interface of like a picture of a tree. And it's like a low poly tree, a cartoon tree, a realistic tree. Yeah. >> So I think it's a good uh UIdriven experience. But you have slides are starting to show up. >> Bring my screen back up. >> So I'm I'm still going through the standalone app as part of Copilot chat. And what you can see here is it's actually um it's gone through it's done its initial outline. It's started to validate the presentation. And now it's starting to create the slides. And what I think is really cool is it's creating them simultaneously. It can see the part and the whole uh as it's actually building this out. You can see each one of these has its own um life cycle. And then it's actually giving me a preview over here in the canvas area um off to the side. So it kind of u automatically extends and opens up. And now you can see slides are starting to pop up and you can see the look and the fill and you can see uh the content. Um it's really kind of magical as this process is uh happening especially like the first couple of times that uh that you do it and it's going to give you a really good starting point. It's going to get you 50% 80% of the way done and then you can do the final polish. But um using cloud on the back end of this is a change in uh how it actually creates powerpoints and how they can look and the content and the visuals that it can actually bring in as part of that experience. >> Yeah, dude. That looks so good. >> Yeah, it really does. >> Those are good looking slides. >> There's a good question from David in here that I was curious about. I demo the way you're doing it here where it's like I'm gonna go into the agent and I'm just going to say just give me a give me a topic and it's like just a couple words. >> Yeah. >> David's got something that actually there's the demo and then there's what I actually do in the real world. >> What I to your point uh David what I do in the real world uh a lot of times sometimes I do just like I don't even know where to start. So, I'll be like, "Give me a slide deck about Claude Co-work." >> But what I like to do a lot of times is do a little bit of pre-work. >> And David, you mentioned about like uh the researcher or the deep thinking. Um I find that that takes a little bit longer than I want to. Um it is helpful if I can switch to like Claude, but um now not to like steal the thunder too much from uh from the wave three announcements, but also if you have anthropic enabled, I can just go to claw or sonnet in a normal chat and I will say give me an outline for a presentation. Give me you know the structure of a presentation. I'll kind of put that in here like you know, hey, I'm presenting uh for 45 minutes about windmills and uh renewable energy technology. Can you create like a storyline structure for me? Ultimately, I want it to be an outline that I'm going to send over to the PowerPoint agent. So, format it in a way that that agent will be able to pick up and uh make the slides for me. So, I do that and this is that pre-step. And honestly, I'll have a little bit better of a narrative going on. Um, and I like to use the regular chat, switch it to Claude. Um, because like you saw how fast that was. I didn't have to wait like 15 minutes. >> But to David's point, then I could grab this, copy it like at the bottom when it's done like puking out text at me. Um, I'll hit the copy, then dump that into the PowerPoint agent and, uh, you know, you might end up with a little bit more robust stuff. Um, so it's a little bit different. Like if I don't know anything about a topic, then I'll just like throw it at the agent, see what the agent does. If I kind of know the structure of what I want to talk about, then I'll give it more. I'll give it like an actual outline. So, but that that was a really good point, David. That's kind of how I actually do stuff in my day job a lot of times. And I'd like to add to that, will you bring mine back up on the um on the screen? >> So, um there is to John's point, there is definitely a different difference with researcher. I think researcher is something where I'm going to have a complex number of ask. I'm going to have it look at a Excel file from a discovery workshop. I'm going to have it start to categorize items. I'm going to have it run dduplication on content. I'm going to have it score things. I'm going to have it do conditional formatting. I'm going to have it come out >> and um format uh the report in like a certain way. >> I'm going to be able to do that with a little bit more confidence in researcher. I can let researcher reason. I think it's got a bigger token um um capability over there >> and I can let it run. But I do like using uh I've really been experimenting a lot with the cloud models in our uh our frontier uh tenant and I'm really impressed with the results that I get. But with researcher it could run for 45 minutes or an hour. >> And to David's point um yes in in my my work life I don't have anthropic either in in my thing. So he says like hey no sonnet in my t tenant that is a bummer. Um for that I would switch probably to 5.4 deep reasoning or deep thinking. >> So that's yeah that's where I was actually heading. a little bit less uh sicopantic and stuff. A little bit more like realistic in its stuff. >> So if we look at the drop down, we've got a number of different models. So we've got the quick response and think deeper. That's GPT 5.1. >> I was going to say, do you know if that what that is? It's 51. >> Yeah, it's 51. It's in the Microsoft Docs. And then you scroll down here and you can see we've got uh 52 quick response to think deeper, 53 quick response, and then 54 think deeper. And >> thanks Open AI. If if anybody could be worse than like Microsoft about renaming things and being confusing, maybe Open AI will take the the cake. So the the thing I tell I coach people on with this is each model kind of has its own personality and um its way of like reasoning and responding to your prompt and your query. You just have to do a little bit of um exploration. Um I typically do think deeper. I just want to have a little bit more than a surface level pass. But if I'm just rewriting something or if I'm doing an outline, using one of the quick response models is definitely the way to go. I'm going to find the actual article, but Microsoft has an article where it actually coaches on the changes from 50 to 5.1 um what you should consider for your prompter, your instructions, and some tips and tricks. I'll find that article and make sure I put it in the chat. Um yeah, I actually have recommended >> that Microsoft do more of that. It was a really helpful uh article from Microsoft research, but it's going to take a little bit of experimentation. And full disclosure, I am experimenting a lot with the different models, especially the cloud models. And I just want to bring one more um into the demo. A minute ago, John was showing you um the uh agent feature inside of PowerPoint. Well, this is the agent mode inside or edit with Copilot inside of Excel. And I wanted to show in the menu here. uh they are now giving us um GPT 5.2. >> They're also giving us cloud 4.5 and 4.6. And if you've experimented any with 4.6, the results are pretty outstanding. >> Um so I'm really looking forward to taking that to a test drive because that just showed up this week. It was not here last week when we >> I don't live in Excel so I hadn't seen that yet. Yeah. Uh to Daryl's point too, this is another good point is that like that side research you do >> that'll provide like the citations and stuff sometimes that's lacking in in the uh the agent version. >> Another thing I I just had like an aha moment. Um I was talking about like you know I I I'll settle in and do something the same way forever and I was like oh I would just like take this response, copy it, then go into PowerPoint. I was like like I should have had a V8 like what what am I doing in in the chat? You could actually hit the at sign and then at mention PowerPoint and be like, "Dude, make this into a slide deck." So, I didn't Yeah, that's streamlined. I'm like, "What am I doing? It's 2026. I shouldn't be copying and pasting." >> Well, it's a change in workflow and it's it's a different place to go and and get the thing done. And I think we're all that's been a big takeaway just engaging with other MVPs here this week. Like, >> the way that we do work is changing a little bit. We've got these new tools that can help us, but we have to fit them into processes. stay flexible. Holy cow. >> But fit them into processes and it takes some experimentation to figure out what that process is going to actually look like. So we're not afraid to, you know, learn out loud um deep dive without a safety net and and you know see what happens. Uh we encourage you to do the same thing. Explore kind of learn out loud. Um learn with your peers, you know, in the companies that you work with or your local community. Uh and just don't be afraid to push the button. >> Yeah. What else from this blog have we have we not touched that we actually have >> from wave three? >> So we just showed you a little bit with the edit with copilot in Word, Excel, and PowerPoint that's in stages of rolling out. Uh Excel I've seen that in the GA now. Um Word and PowerPoint are a little further behind. So I think they're still in the frontier model and I have seen the Excel version um on the desktop app as well. So, uh, edit with Copilot has trickled down to the desktop and then GA um release. Um, moving on from there, uh, they've got C-pilot chat in Outlook. >> So, you're going to be able to draft and refine your emails, manage calendars, RSVPs, um, and you can use the email widget to take action directly from chat and streamlining uh, communications. So, where I've seen that uh show up that's actually been really helpful is not even in um Outlook uh from an actual conversation with Copilot. You can go in and >> I do not have this edit with Copilot in Outlook yet. So, that's one of the things that's been announced that isn't >> out yet. So, don't don't go looking for it today. schedule a meeting for Monday at 9 or 10:00 a.m. Eastern time with John to discuss our upcoming workshop for the Microsoft 365 community conference happening in April in Orlando, Florida. Be sure to look for our promo code because we're going to need to make sure we include that in the conference materials. Dude, I demoed this at work the other day and it was like, "Oh, finally. I don't have to go to Outlook to schedule a meeting." Like, it can just do it in in line. Yep. So, we just let it run. It'll take a moment, but it'll start um looking at creating that. It's going to give me an option to confirm before it actually sends it out. But, I can do more work here >> without having to go across a whole bunch of different apps. And I really like that. But, it's a change in workflow, so you're going to have to uh to get uh used to it. So, we'll let this one run. Hopefully, >> when this comes up, do you know technically >> is this uh No, okay, there it is. Is this is this an adaptive card technically? It seems like so much more robust than that. Um, >> that is a great question. >> I'm curious if it's the same technology or not. >> Hey, co-pilot, I'm going to take this as a follow-up question. I'm going to go look at it later. >> Yeah, but this is so much nicer. Um, and you'll see that it aligns. It's really cool to do this demo at work. Um, it's like, >> of course, we're going to be aligned because this is our demo tenant, so there's no meetings ever, but um, this is impressive when you do it at work and it's like six people with overlapping schedules and they actually have real meetings. >> Um, it it does a good job of free busy. >> So, let's go ahead and hit the send invite for option number one. let it taken the the next steps >> and >> and it used to be they would give you a link for the >> it would take you out to a new tab in Outlook on the web and they would fill out the information for you but it was technically a context switch. >> So this is like staying inside a chat which is pretty sweet. >> So I'm going to head into Outlook for just a second and this is uh it says the invite was sent successfully for Monday. the topics workshop planning for M365 uh community college >> already in my mailbox. Yeah. >> Yep. I head over um just gonna pop up my calendar moving to next week and workshop planning already on the calendar right there. It is people invited already meeting uh a team's meeting attached to it. It's got you know a little bit of um preamble you know like the description there. I think one thing you might want to do is like say, "Hey, Copi, can you do this for me?" Like make a a meeting invite and insert an agenda >> and then it will do like a proper agenda for you. And you want to do that because then facilitator will recognize that and pick up and you'll get a better facilitator experience, too. >> Yep. So, I thought that one was really cool. Um, I'm excited to experiment a little bit more with that. that was from Outlook. There's going to be a few um extensions of that. So, you can ask questions about calendars and do things like proactive RSVPs for events. And we're just kind of glancing over a few of these things because I think we're going to circle back a little bit more. We're getting pretty close to the top of the hour. Um so, we're going to be landing the ship here a little early today. U travel is of concern. Got to make sure I I make it to the airport on time to head back to North Carolina. Short little five and a half hour flight. >> Hopefully next month maybe we'll get to pick up and start talking about co-work because that's something that's not out yet. >> Um but like everybody is excited to like start seeing it. So um I would say >> between now and the next month, maybe we'll have it. I'm not quite sure when it's going to actually hit, but um between now and then, if you if you want to get ahead of this stuff and you want to be ready for co-work, I would encourage you drop the 20 bucks, go get, you know, an anthropic even just for one month. Start figuring out co-pilot or anthropics cla because it's going to be a very kind of get like familiar like here's where the UI is. So, um, yeah, that'll hopefully like prep you for maybe next month we can talk about it. I hope >> we've been wanting to do a deep dive into more Cloud. We've just been waiting for some of the features to hit. You saw a couple today. We definitely want to circle back and show you a co-work uh coming up um here soon. Also want to talk about the uh app builder agent. Uh currently it's in Frontier. It's pretty cool. There's some interesting things there that we want to share and we are going to circle back and go into more of the wave three announcements. Um, we're going to need to spend some time talking about work IQ. This is going to be something that's going to be really valuable for your enterprise and some of the agentic workflows that you've got coming. >> Starting to finally understand what it really is and it's not just a rename of the graph, you know, graph stuff. So