Ask HN: How do you interview for PM when you're a Front end dev?

I was a Frontend Developer for 7 years and, under a new title, FE Product lead on most of our internal client-facing applications for 3 years and find myself interviewing for positions in FE while also attempting to relate both abilities and it's not gone well recently. (To my mind I can't just hop in as PM at a new company as there's an entire Dev culture for those prospective employers which I should understand from the ground up.) This post is very poorly worded and omits so many of my thoughts on DevRel/DevOps, but I've found myself recently describing to interviewers why I want to work in Dev (ground-floor dev work to get a good understanding of the dev needs of those prospective companies) as well as trying to establish why I have the capacity to be a good fit for Product Management for them in 3- to 5-years time. At this point should I even be looking into FE jobs or should I seek out PM? What intermediary steps am I missing (certifications, job titles,